New Tyres, what brand would you recommend...............................

[Brake buster]

i need a new pair of front tyres for my 2.2 DTi signum, its done 18k on these so not so bad,
they are however now down to 2mm on the front and 4mm on the back and i'm in the market for new,

i currently have Goodyear Eagle NCT5 215/50/17's which are W rated ( upto 150mph i understand ) Clicky Linky (http://www.tyresave.co.uk/tyrspeed.html)

anywayz, after trawling ebay i have found a few options , either...

Yokohama velocity xtreme 225/45/17's Z rated

or

Continental Barum 225/45/17's Z rated


these work out about £50 each including the postage for 4 brand new ones

what do you think ???

BB :confused:

[Drinky]

dont think either of these are bad prices BB however yokohamas are a softer compound than most hence good grip but they only last about 10,000 miles so will need replacing sooner conti barums are a budget tyre so again not good life expectancy on these ive just put two avon zz3 225/45/17 Y rated on my 2.2dti sri veccy from national tyres cost all in £160 and have now done about 1000 miles on them fantastic wet and dry grip and also nice and quiet on the road plus they are a harder compound so (HOPEFULLY) will last a good while HTH!!!!!

[bruceybonus]

I managed to get 25k out of my nct-5's well impressed, may well get them again

[Brake buster]

thats v-good,

mine have 2mm left , so will easily get me to 20k if needed, the rears have over 5mm left and are good for ages,

i do however like to get new boota all round, for looks if nothing else

the goodyears have performed well, and are W rated, so are well capable

BB

[jka]

By far the best tyres I've had were the Goodyear Eagle F1.

[Maverick]

I am up to 26,000 on two of my Michelin Pilot 225 45 18's and they still have a few 000 left on them.

[Bainie]

I`ve just put on 4 toyo-proxes and they stick to the road like ****e to a blanket, they are very quiet as well .... Not cheap tho..

[lborob17]

I recenty swapped front to back tyres on my 17" eagles. at 20K Ive got 6 mm on the front and 4mm on the back so think they should last for another few 1000's

I used to get 45K out of a set on my vectra B on Mitchelin Energy's

[Dwabo]

Just got some Goodyear Eagle F1's for the rear in a 225/45/y17...£200 for 2 all in..not bad price really either

[Boris]

I've got Kumho Ecsta's on my 18's. absolutly useless in the wet. Quite dangerous at times. :( :eek:
I'm not sure what to get next though. want something with a good mix of longevity and grip. :confused:

[blr123]

Hello guys,

This one I know, it just has to Michelin simple as that, the fact that I work for them has absolutely nothing to do with it :D

And before anyone asks the answer, I'm affraid is no :rolleyes:

Bryan

PS did you know there is more than 38 parts in one tyre, just some trivia for you!

[Paul2468]

Recently changed all 4 tyres from the factory fitted Goodyears to Hankook ***

VENTUS SPORT K104 215/50 ZR17 91Y Rim-protection

These tyres are £50.00 each @ mytyres.co.uk and my car (Vectra 3.0 CDTi Elite) handles far better than on the factory fitted tyres. I have now done over 10,000 miles on these tyres and the fronts still look fairly new, should go at least 25,000 with present rate of wear. Rears still look new.

Just brought 2 Hankook's for my wife's Astra 1.8 SXI, again at £50.00 each.

Best all round tyres I've had at this sort of price.

[blr123]

Here you go guys "The tweel" :D and yes these are in production and available for light commercial :)

http://www.michelinman.com/difference/releases/pressrelease01102005a.html

Bryan

[TechWolf]

My folks have Continental SportContact 2 ( 225/45 - 17 ) on their Vectra GTS 3.2, and are very pleased with them.

[jwlanky]

Avon ZZ3 replaced my SportConti 2 (225/45/17) and £360 for a set of four. 12k miles on they're great, better than the contis!!
Apparently Avon have a new ZZ? 94W rated tyre out that should sharpen up your turn-in.

[Jamie]

I just got a pair of ZZ3's, (224/45/17 - there was much consternation from the monkey changing them as I was changing size/profile) today for £152 all in. Very happy with them so far.

[Boris]

Had some Dunlop SP9000's put on the front at the weekend. so far so good.
I've been told they are a good tyre so fingers crossed. Anything is better than Kumho carp!

[blr123]

Hi All...............you cheapskates :D ..................you know deep down that Michelin is the ONLY way to go............you do..............you all do eh :D

Bryan

[Brake buster]

right,....seeing i started this thread a while back, lol a quick update,

today , i got a puncture in my front right, nothing serious , it was parked up when i noticed it, so swaped a rear wheel to the front and put the horrible space saver on the back, in the rain i might add, lol

i have been looking at tyres since the thread started and got quotes of £285 for a pair of originals fitted, or £193 for 225/45/17's fitted

still a bit steep me thinks
lastnight i lost an auction for four new Yoko's for £185 ( bummer , lol )

tonight i bought 4 new Bridgestone 225/45/17 REO40's for £46 each ( plus £24 postage )

i will get my Bro to fit em for me

what do you think of the Bridgestones , as they normally retain for about £150 each but are on special in some places for £100 each

BB

[blr123]

:eek: ...........I'll get my coat........... :D

[Jamie]

Cheapest quote I got for RE040's was £97 per corner, all in..... thats cheap as chips mate... well done.

[Brake buster]

cool..... :D


well if anyone is interested he still has 5 left at the same price



GET A BARGAIN HERE NOW (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8002556114&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1)

and they have been up for less then 12 hours

BB

[v6boy]

Just foun a whopping big screwdriver bit in my tyre this morning, it was in the middle section so i thought oh well at least it can be repaired.....

Went to National Tyres and Autocare who removed my wheel, then came over to me and said it can't be repaired because ther was another whopping nail sticking straight through the tyre near the sidewall :(

Explained that i couldn't afford a new tyre until pay day and could he put it back on and give me a quote for 2 new ones (nothng wrong with the other, but i like things matching! :p ) He started reeling off all the top brands from his computer and quoting prices like £204, £190, you get the picture, Hmm not bad for 2 premium tyres i thought.. But hold on that was just for 1 :eek: I said your kidding me he said nope, to which i said thank you and goodbye. What a rip off.

So, sorry for the ramble, which leads me to my Question. Been on mytyres.co.uk and quite fancy the Hankook Ventus sport K104's that Paul 2468has recently bought, not a bad price at all and i can get em fitted locally for £10 a piece. I also like the fact that they are rim protectors, because where i live i have to parallel park next to a kerb, they're not a bad tread pattern either. But i fancy getting some Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-d's but it doesn't particularly say that these have rim protection? Also the F1's are 225x45x17, which i know is ok, but does the slight drop in the profile mean i'm gonna have a noticably larger gap in between the wheel and arch??

Cheers

Russ

[TechWolf]

The rim protecion ..... my F1 GSD3 didnt say so either on the web ... but they do have rim protection ... The F1 GSD2 i had before didnt ...

"Noticably larger gap" .... well ... for 215/50 the sidewalls 10.75cm and for 225/45 10.12cm

[v6boy]

Oh, so i guess just over 50mm isn't gonna make much difference to the appearence! :D

Cheers for that TechWolf.

BTW does 225 over 215 mean an extra 10cms width?

[Bainie]

10mm wider, i used to have 225/24s on and you couldn`t notice the difference, until it came to pay for them that is ?

[TechWolf]

Oh, so i guess just over 50mm isn't gonna make much difference to the appearence! :D

Cheers for that TechWolf.

BTW does 225 over 215 mean an extra 10cms width?

Well ... its no 50mm :) .... its inly 0,2 in ... 10,75cm=4,2in and 10,12=4,0in

No ... 1cm ( 10mm ) ..... 225 means 225mm

[Brake buster]

Oh, so i guess just over 50mm isn't gonna make much difference to the appearence! :D

Cheers for that TechWolf.

BTW does 225 over 215 mean an extra 10cms width?



erm, its only 6mm difference m8, not 50mm

and if u want to get really techinical, its 6mm further away from the arch , but the car will also be lowered by 6mm to
BB

[v6boy]

Oh Yeah... Doh :o shame on me!

[simonali]

I like Michelin tyres. Had a set of Pilot Sports on my Astra which I was really happy with, but they cost nearly £570 for 4! What I wasn't happy with was when one got damaged and when I went to replace it I found out they had stopped making them. I then had to buy a pair so they weren't mismatched. Wasn't going to spend £300 on 2 Michelins, so I had some Falkens fitted. Not much cop, with too much understeer and sliding. Goodyear Eagle F1s are good too, but the GSD3s are very noisy compared to the GSD2s. Also had a pair of Bridgestone Potenza S-03s on the front and they wore out in about 10,000 miles.

[blr123]

erm, its only 6mm difference m8, not 50mm

and if u want to get really techinical, its 6mm further away from the arch , but the car will also be lowered by 6mm to
BB

Hello all,

Just one thing to note, the rolling circumference MUST remain within 3% of standard or it could affect the ABS system i.e. it could fail.

Bryan

[VauxVeteran]

I've used many a budget tyre over the yrs, so you can get an idea i'll list the memorable ones.

Barums - Good wearing and average roadholding

Nexen - Good Wearing, horrible in the rain

Toyo - Good all round

Michelin - The best IMO

Avon - Good holding average wear

Dunlop - short life good holding

Bridgestone Good all round

Continental - Good all round

Black Horse - average all round

I use the budgets mainly due to the fact that an A grade tyre doesn't seem to last much more than a cheapy, roadholding seems to be the improving factor to a top brand tyre.

[VauxVeteran]

Nearly forgot Kleber's, these are really good rubbers, haven't had them for ages, I think they are a Michelin brand if my memory serves me right, if not its Continental.

[blr123]

Yep Kleber is indeed Michelin.......made rite here in Bonnie Dundee :cool:

As for prices my tyres are good and cheap: -

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/

Bryan

[cpt slow]

Yep Kleber is indeed Michelin.......made rite here in Bonnie Dundee :cool:

As for prices my tyres are good and cheap: -

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/

Bryan

I could do with new tyres nudge nudge wink wink :D

[blr123]

:fear: :flail:

[SCOTTEX]

Right Bryan, you've spilled the beans now. We need info.............
1. How do you rate the Kleber tyres and would you use them ?
2. Can you recommend the Dynaxer HP for comfort and silence over the Premency, or are they made the same way, just using lower spec materials ?
(Can you tell I've been reading the Kleber website)

[VauxVeteran]

Right Bryan, you've spilled the beans now. We need info.............
1. How do you rate the Kleber tyres and would you use them ?
2. Can you recommend the Dynaxer HP for comfort and silence over the Premency, or are they made the same way, just using lower spec materials ?
(Can you tell I've been reading the Kleber website)


If this helps you, I ran them for about 2 yrs, my mate used to do me a deal on them, they used to be about £5 dearer than your average Checz budget tyre, they held the road pretty good and a pair on the front of my then Vectra B would last around 12k, but this was due to 2 factors, 1 it was a taxi, and 2 the car had an issue with uneven wear both back and front, I didn't realise when I bought it it had a hidden past, new # plate and the hatch door run on one side had been botch repaired, didn't check it that well when buying, from a Q dealer you'd assume you wouldn't have to, on closer inspection we found it had had 3 # plates in one yr and the service book had International written in it, HPi didn't list anything, but I bet if I'd run it through German records I think it may well have been a write off, and no pro paintshop would have left the rear as I found it so it must have been repaired without the insurance company knowing anything about it.

Cant say anything on the Mich's as I dont use £130 a pop tyres, but I'd say you can probably assume they will be top notch.

[blr123]

1. How do you rate the Kleber tyres and would you use them ?

I can definatly recomend, had tem fitted to a number of cars!

2. Can you recommend the Dynaxer HP for comfort and silence over the Premency, or are they made the same way, just using lower spec materials ?
(Can you tell I've been reading the Kleber website)

The Primacy are also very good tyres, had them fitted, quieter than the Kleeber

I can't compare to other btands as I have never bought a tyre in my life, always had Michelin, Kleeber or BFG supplied and fitted at work ;)

Bryan

[SCOTTEX]

For a long time I made the mistake of using cheap tyres. Recently, the last 3 years I've switched to top quality tyres, not your Max Power 500mph rated ones but Michelin's & Bridgestone's.
However I travel around a lot visiting manufacturing sites in all areas of business and some places they may make a well known brand and a cheap brand side by side by the same process, ingredients, etc. The food industry and cosmetic industry spring to mind and was wondering if this happened in the tyre business.

As I was typing this out Bryan came in like a bolt from the blue.

[SCOTTEX]

1. How do you rate the Kleber tyres and would you use them ?

I can definatly recomend, had tem fitted to a number of cars!

2. Can you recommend the Dynaxer HP for comfort and silence over the Premency, or are they made the same way, just using lower spec materials ?
(Can you tell I've been reading the Kleber website)

The Primacy are also very good tyres, had them fitted, quieter than the Kleeber

I can't compare to other btands as I have never bought a tyre in my life, always had Michelin, Kleeber or BFG supplied and fitted at work ;)

Bryan


Thanks Bryan.
(I need to study the Kleber website more thoroughly)

[blr123]

To answer your last question........Michelin, Kleeber & BFG are made side by side here in Dundee ;)

Bryan

[SCOTTEX]

Thank you Bryan. Your information is invaluable. ;)

[AndrewTi]

Made in Dundee?

That would explain why I was stuck in Bordeaux for two days last year waiting for a pair of Michelins!!!!

Still, Bordeaux really is a beautifull city. You see a lot of it when you're walking around!!

[ashdog]

fitted some yoko avs they are the nuts feels like the cars is just glued to the black stuff.

[CDTi Mike]

not sure if this has been asked before but...
is it ok and or legal to have 2 x 225/45/17's on the front and 2 x 215/50/17's on the rears???

[Gsi3.2]

not sure if this has been asked before but...
is it ok and or legal to have 2 x 225/45/17's on the front and 2 x 215/50/17's on the rears???

In short, Yes. As long as the same axle wears the same tyres with the same sizes across the car then to have a difference front to back is acceptable.

[The Doc]

Anyone else have noisy Kumho tyres at all? Mine are :(

[grumpano]

Mine are fine CDTI.

[chrismiller]

Hi guys i was looking for new tyres and found that 235x45x17 are a nearer match for diameter but wheels should be 8j rather than 7.5 also i found these 225/45/17TOYOT1R £ 88.52
225/45/R17 Toyo Proxes T1-R RF 94Y Tyre.

235/45/17 Toyo T1-R 235/45/17TOYOT1R £ £ 89.75 at www.tyresite.com free delivery or fitting
not sure if a good deal but looks ok

[Maverick 177rus]

I've got Dunlop Direzza http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/dunlop/du_direzza_dz10_ci2_l.jpg

Ride and noise comfort. They are exilent in rainy weather. I think they are good.

[Big Bri]

For blr123

Bryan,

I had the opportunity to buy 2 Michelin Pilot Primacy 215/50 R17 tyres for £30 each, brand new from a Renault dealer clearing his stores. Great I thought until I noticed that they were of a load rating of 91 whereas those on my Signum are 95. The 91 load rating is well above the Siggy's axle load but I checked with Vauxhall Customer Services if I could use them. No idea was the immediate reply but we will ask Germany they said. Came back the next day and said MOST DEFINITELY NO! If I fitted them my warranty would be invalidated and I could be breaking the law as replacement tyres must be of the same specification as the original fitment.

I notice that some of the people on here have 91s fitted from their car photographs so they may be in trouble. Or are those used on Vectras 91 rated as they are lighter than Signums?

I would appreciate your comments.

[Bainie]

It is the 3.0 V6`s that need the extra rating on the tyres are far as I am aware, the extra weight on the engine ??

[SCOTTEX]

Big Bri, there's been various threads on this topic and the main advice is to stick to the load rating in your handbook, insurance companies and VX are wise to this now. Anything to wriggle out of not paying.

[blr123]

Look I've told you before...........keep me in a job and get MICHELINS eh :rockon:

Bryan

[AndrewTi]

Strange? Mine was on 91W, but the F1's I've got on the back are 94's. When I replace the fronts I will be getting 94's Though, to make it even. Mine's not a 3.0V6 though - worse luck!!

[Big Bri]

Look I've told you before...........keep me in a job and get MICHELINS eh :rockon:

Bryan
I would have bought them (Michelin) if they had been 95s. An absolute bargain.

What rating on your Signum Bryan?

[AndrewTi]

Buy them anyway and put them for sale here! They are superb tyres! Mine are getting on for 26000 miles now and just wont wear out the last 2mm!

[blr123]

What rating on your Signum Bryan?

Hi guys,

Mine are 93V (Michelin Pilot Premacy)..........and ther are SUPERB..........what can I say I helped make them eh :D

Bryan

[Spikey©]

Hi guys,

Mine are 93V (Michelin Pilot Premacy)..........and ther are SUPERB..........what can I say I helped make them eh :D

Bryan

Do you get a company discount Bryan? If so, could that be extended to club members? Might find a few willing customers ;)

[blr123]

Do you get a company discount Bryan? If so, could that be extended to club members? Might find a few willing customers ;)

Eerrrmmmm well we get them FOC :rockon: ........as for club discount this has been asked before and Michelin say they can't undercut their retailers........sorry :(

Bryan

PS just so you know I have NEVER bought a tyre in my life :rockon:

[Angel Boy]

Eerrrmmmm well we get them FOC :rockon: ........as for club discount this has been asked before and Michelin say they can't undercut their retailers........sorry :(

Bryan

PS just so you know I have NEVER bought a tyre in my life :rockon:


Bryan,
I see your tyres are looking worn again, time for a new set ;) In fact the amount of driving you do I think you need a new set every week ;) ;) Tell you what, I'll take your week old used tyres of your hands for free. In fact I am sure other members would be willing to offer you the same service :D

Andy